How to Connect with Busy Teens | Ep. 178

How to Connect with Busy Teens | Ep. 178

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Even with a packed calendar, connection is a vital part of everyone’s health.

If you’re a parent, mentor, or caring adult who’s ever felt like connecting with teens gets harder when life gets hectic—we know exactly how you feel.

Whether it’s summer break, exam season, or just a stretch where everyone’s calendars are jam-packed, it’s totally normal to feel like you’re missing each other. But today, we’re flipping the script and talking about why these moments are some of the most important times to lean in and stay connected.

Key Question

How can I continue to connect with teens when schedules are busy and their normal routines are disrupted?

What We Cover

00:00  Introduction and Humor
02:57  Connecting with Busy Teens
06:03  Utilizing Everyday Moments for Connection
09:00  Meeting Teens Where They Are
12:03  The Importance of Presence
15:03  Consistency in Communication
18:03  Navigating Distant Relationships
20:48  Conclusion and Encouragement

Why This Matters More Than Ever

1. Teens Still Need Us

Even if they’re acting super independent or glued to their phones, teens still crave guidance, stability, and support from trusted adults.

2. Disruptions Can Be Stressful

 A change in rhythm—whether it’s sports seasons, vacations, exams, or family events—can make teens feel overwhelmed or isolated. You can be their steady, calm in the chaos.

3. Small Check-ins Build Big Trust

 You don’t need more time. You just need to make the most of the time you do have.

Perspective Shift

Over the summer, connecting might look different. But showing up matters the most when it takes more effort!

It’s easy to feel disconnected when schedules don’t align, but relationships with teens don’t have to be ‘all or nothing.’

Small moments of connection can make a big difference.

What can you do to make connection happen?

Try These 5 Simple Strategies:

Make the Most of Small Moments

You don’t need a long, sit-down heart-to-heart to connect with a teen.

Some of the best conversations happen during everyday moments—car rides, making dinner, running errands, or even during the commercial break of a show. Use those natural pauses to check-in.

Ask something light like, “What was one high and one low from your day?” or “What’s something funny that happened this week?” You can even try something playful like a “Fist to Five”—ask how they’re doing on a scale from a closed fist (zero) to five fingers. These mini check-ins help you stay in tune without feeling forced or heavy.

Use Technology to Your Advantage

When in-person time is limited, digital connection can bridge the gap.

A simple text saying, “Thinking about you today—hope practice went well!” can brighten their day more than you might think. Try sending a meme, a song you know they like, or an inside joke that reminds them you’re thinking about them.

If you want to make it more personal, record a quick voice memo or video message—something they can hear in your voice or see on your face.

These small gestures make it easy to stay connected in a format that feels natural to them.

Meet Them Where They Are

If your teen is in a season where they’re juggling a lot—school, sports, rehearsals, part-time jobs—connection might mean showing up where they already are, rather than pulling them out of their world.

Maybe you only catch the second half of their game, or you sit nearby while they do homework without needing to chat. These quiet ways of being present can speak volumes.

You can also ask about what’s capturing their attention: “What’s a song you have on repeat lately?” or “What show are you hooked on right now?”

Showing genuine interest in their interests builds trust and opens doors.

Be Predictable and Consistent

When everything around them feels chaotic or uncertain, teens appreciate something that feels steady.

Even one predictable point of contact each week can become a lifeline.

Maybe it’s a Sunday night check-in where you ask, “What’s coming up for you this week?” Or a regular stop for coffee or smoothies after practice. Even just sending a “Good luck!” text before a big test or performance shows you’re tuned in.

Consistency—more than quantity—builds a sense of safety and connection over time.

Keep The Pressure Low

Let’s be honest—teens don’t always want to talk when we’re ready to listen.

That doesn’t mean they don’t want to connect; it just means they need space and options.

Create low-pressure opportunities to be together- “Want to grab ice cream after practice?” or “I’m running to Target—feel like tagging along?” These small, no-expectation invitations give them the freedom to show up on their terms.

Even if they decline, the offer still communicates that you want to spend time with them—and that matters.

TL;DR: Tips and Takeaways

  • Don’t take it personally if they seem distant—pulling away is normal and not about you.
  • Keep showing up—your consistency speaks volumes, even when they don’t say much.
  • Let them lead sometimes—Try simple, open statements like:
    • “I’m here if you ever want to talk.”
    • “No pressure, just checking in.”

Some Last Thoughts

Even in the busiest seasons, connection is still possible—and incredibly powerful.

It doesn’t have to be big or dramatic. In fact, teens often remember the small, consistent ways you showed up more than anything else. So keep reaching out, keep showing up, and know that your presence matters—maybe more than you realize.

Remember: you don’t have to be perfect, just present.

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Read Episode Transcript

Karlie (00:00)
How can I continue to connect with teens when schedules are busy and their normal routines are disrupted? So we are heading into end of school year, going into summer. And so I feel like this is such a timely question because right now teens are probably busier than they’ve ever been with finals, wrapping up all of their things, kicking off summer and then summer.

When I was a kid, Summer, was you didn’t do anything and that is not the case anymore. They do…

Caleb Hatchett (00:29)
Yeah. It’s, it’s getting shorter and shorter also. Like people are starting bandcamp like halfway through July. Like it’s crazy. I’ll plan a mission trip and it’s like, sorry. Sorry. You can’t go in June cause it’s bandcamp. I know, it’s intense. Yeah.

Karlie (00:34)
Well, that’s fair, but they…

Bandcamp is no joke too. But that’s what they do camps.

We’re doing sports are still going if they’re doing select club, AU, all of the things. Many older teens are also working, you add that they’re going on trips, they’re doing mission trips. so schedules just aren’t.

Caleb Hatchett (00:53)
Yeah, club, yeah.

Karlie (01:04)
even normally what they are, but this doesn’t just apply to summer. think as we’re talking about this, think through if you have a student who is in the middle of their sports season or is in the middle of band season or they’re in a play and they’re going to practices every single day and their routine just looks different. How do we connect and how can we keep going when they’re busy and you’re like, wait, I can’t even find a time to talk to them, whether you’re a parent or outside and

Caleb Hatchett (01:06)
No.

Yeah.

Karlie (01:33)
That’s almost even more difficult because you’re not seeing them as often. But it’s going to look different and that’s okay. I will say kind of maybe as our perspective shift, during these times when they’re busier and it’s more difficult, if you continue to show up, it’s going to make a bigger impact. Because you’re showing them, even when this is the toughest it’s going to be, I’m willing to step into that.

Caleb Hatchett (02:00)
Yeah.

Karlie (02:00)
And that shows you really care because you’re not just doing it when it’s easy. You’re

doing it when you’re having to text me five times and go, hi, still here. You’re not answering me, but still care about you. Hope you’re doing good. And that shows a lot to a student. And it doesn’t have to be this all or nothing of we have to be super connected all the time or I’m not connected at all. And I’m just going to fall off looking for these small moments can make.

Caleb Hatchett (02:09)
Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Karlie (02:28)
a big difference.

Caleb Hatchett (02:29)
Yeah. I, you know, I think, you know, even, even using everyday moments, is what is going to have to happen, especially when they’re busy of, you know, taking advantage of the times that are just already prebuilt into a day, ⁓ car rides, meal times, commercial breaks, you know, like of, using, you know, maybe the thing that, you know, they are decompressing, but you still want to make the most out of the time. And yeah, it doesn’t have to be something big. It doesn’t have to be, Hey, let’s go, let’s go and make like a big day out of something. If they’re in the middle of just busyness and just need time to decompress, need time. It’s not too much. You can still check in.

Karlie (03:02)
Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (03:13)
Without adding to all of the busyness just do a quick check-in. Hey, what’s a high and a low from today? Whoop and a poop if you tuned in last week What’s something funny that happened this week a fist to five on just how your day or you haven’t talked to him Until the end of the summer how the summer was going Just take advantage of any small moment that you can

Karlie (03:25)
Bye!

Right.

Well, and especially if you’re a parent, you are going to have those little moments more because you’re with them. So you are gonna be in the car with them. You are gonna maybe eat a meal with them or be sitting around watching TV and mute it during a commercial to be like, hey, catch me up on your day or what’s been going on. If you’re not a parent and you don’t have those little moments, come up with something that you just shoot off every now and then. Earlier this year,

Caleb Hatchett (03:47)
Yeah.

Karlie (04:09)
Teen Life was going through transition and life was crazy busy. And I had a Teen Life friend who would text me fist to five, are you doing today? And it was quick and it was short and I could respond with, you know, I’m at a four today. It’s actually going pretty good. Or today is a two. It has been tough. And we didn’t, she wasn’t taking too much of my time, but every time it showed, man, she cares enough that she’s going to continue.

Caleb Hatchett (04:17)
Hmm.

Yeah.

Mm. Yeah.

Karlie (04:35)
to check in and even something like that where you don’t have to give an explanation, but a student could just be like, how many thumbs up are we today? And like, how many booms I’m going to give today? Three booms. Like, I don’t know. Sawyer would be. Yeah, all in on that. Maybe it’s just that you send every now and then gifs back and forth. And if you haven’t heard from a while, send them a funny gif of like, hello, you there? Like make it funny and not.

Caleb Hatchett (04:44)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah

Karlie (05:04)
feels so heavy or like it’s one more thing that they have to keep up with. But at the same time, if they are this busy, it’s stressful. And so I think sometimes we think, they’re busy. They don’t want to hear from me, but sometimes they need more support and they need more help than ever before because that is incredible. Like the sports, the family, the not having their normal routine, they are probably feeling overwhelmed.

Caleb Hatchett (05:08)
Yes. Yeah.

Yeah, yes.

Karlie (05:31)
They might be feeling isolated if they can’t be around their normal friends. And so those small check-ins mean so, much. And so I kind of, we already mentioned this, but use technology to your advantage. Even as a parent, yes, but even if you are a parent of just like, hey, they left super early for practice and I’m not seeing them till tonight. Hey, thinking about you right now, hope practice is great. You don’t have to ask anything.

Caleb Hatchett (05:38)
Yeah.

Hmm, especially if you’re not the parent. Yeah. Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Karlie (05:57)
Hey, heard this song today. Have you heard this one? I liked it. Hey, have you seen this show yet? Or, hey, let’s put this on the calendar to go see this movie when it comes out. Something like that, that can be short voice memos. Voice memos honestly kind of stress me out because I don’t like that they disappear because then I forget about them. I don’t know. That’s just, I know you can, but sometimes I forget and then I’ve forgotten. I was like, I don’t

Caleb Hatchett (06:00)
Yeah.

⁓ okay. huh. You can hit keep on them and they stay.

Karlie (06:24)
what they said. It’s been a long time.

Caleb Hatchett (06:26)
I guess that is

how to have a conversation. If the last thing they said disappears forever. Yeah.

Karlie (06:30)
Exactly. But

you can’t keep it. But maybe you shoot off a quick voice memo of, I know you’re busy, but this just happened and I wanted to tell you about it. And you tell them a story where they don’t have to be available right that second or shoot them a video. I was going to say, I know kids FaceTime all the time, which is once again, wild to me because if someone just out of the blue FaceTimes me, something is wrong. Like someone is in trouble, but they do it all the time. So maybe do it back.

Caleb Hatchett (06:37)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

So the quick FaceTime. Yeah. yeah. I think yeah. Using technology, especially in the midst of busyness, you know, can be, Hey, just checking in, making sure that they know you’re there and doesn’t have much expectation. You know, you know, don’t be like, you know, overbearing of, you didn’t text back. Like you sure you’re okay. They might just be busy.

Karlie (07:12)
Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (07:19)
You know, but you know, they’re not texting back. Just continue to say, Hey, here’s this weird gift song I found, you know, try to keep it low expectation response from them. What.

Karlie (07:29)
I had

a college roommate, my freshman roommate, and I’m not saying you need to do this, but it just made me think of this and it was so funny that one day, I think I was in class and she sent me a text and I didn’t immediately respond. She, no joke, sent me probably 50 individual words. Hey, are you there? Hello, can you help me? What are you doing? Why aren’t you answering me? Like, I mean, a million. And so I’m not saying do that.

Caleb Hatchett (07:53)
Yeah

Ha

Karlie (07:56)
But

if they don’t respond to you, just be like, checking in again, see above. Don’t make them feel bad, but you can poke fun about that. Man, you must be crazy busy if you’re not answering. Just keep going. Just keep going and see how, hey, yeah, gonna see how many texts it takes for you to reply to me. I don’t know. It could be five, we’re at 10. Or just like check and count 10 unreplied messages. Here we go.

Caleb Hatchett (08:00)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, lean into this kid. Yeah.

You

zero day, 10 days since last message replied. Yeah. Yeah.

Karlie (08:22)
Yeah. Yeah. Like please mark yourself as safe. At least send

an emoji. Let me know you’re okay. So leaning into that, I will say also meeting them where they are. When you’re hearing us say that, don’t, especially if they’re busy or crazy, try not to expect more of them. But maybe for this season, they aren’t showing up to Wednesday night for you, Caleb, because they’re busy.

Caleb Hatchett (08:32)
Yeah.

Yes.

Mm-hmm.

Karlie (08:46)
you know what, I’m gonna look next week and I’m gonna go to one of their games and I’m gonna show up for them. Or I’m gonna go to their one-act play because I know that this is important to them and they’ve put so much effort into it that I’m going to honor that and make sure that they know that I’m there. If you’re a parent and they have a crazy amount of homework, maybe it’s going and sitting next to them and doing work on your computer while they’re doing homework. So at least presence-wise,

Caleb Hatchett (08:58)
Yes.

Yeah, your presence. Yeah.

Karlie (09:13)
you’re there. doesn’t always have to mean a super deep connection, a super deep conversation or ask him questions. It could just be like, Hey, I’m here.

Caleb Hatchett (09:20)
Yeah. And you know, I think I’ve always been surprised by how much it really does mean to a student that, you, you showed up like to, to this game, to this thing that, you know, sometimes, sometimes most of the time they will be like, Hey, you coming, you coming? And like, they won’t let you forget, but especially for the ones who just kind of like, yeah, you know, I have a game this week.

Karlie (09:27)
Mm-hmm.

Hahaha!

Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (09:45)
And you know, like if you were able to pick up on that and be like, you know what? They didn’t necessarily explicitly ask. It means so, so much. And yes, even to the ones who annoy you and begging you to come to the game or come to the play, whatever it means more than I think you can know because it’s, you know, they probably know you’re busy. and even if they don’t, it’s like, man, makes them feel good about themselves. so meet them where they’re at.

Karlie (10:00)
Mm-hmm.

And I’ll say if you’re

a teacher too, you probably, can’t go to all the things. There’s no way, especially if you’re a high school teacher and you’ve got, I don’t know, 100, probably more students that are in your classes. Pick two students that this semester I’m gonna show up for one thing that they do. Or try to pick, hey, I have this, I’ve got five basketball players in my class. I can knock out five by going to one game.

Caleb Hatchett (10:28)
Yeah.

Yes.

Karlie (10:37)
or I’ve got

lots of kids that are in band and on the football team, so I’m going to show up to a game. Or if you have a student that you know is very stressed, asking them, hey, what are you involved in right now that is also taking up a lot of your time? Okay, I can tell that means a lot to you because of how much time it’s taking, so that’s what I’m going to show up to this time. And so thinking through things like that instead of just being like, well, this is ridiculous that…

Caleb Hatchett (10:52)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Karlie (11:02)
you’re having such a hard time in my class because of that, but being like, man, this is important enough to them that they’re trying to squeeze it in. And so I’m, I want to see what this is about and go support them.

Caleb Hatchett (11:05)
Yeah.

And I think too, like it’s, you don’t have to be a super fan. Like, you know, don’t have to show up to every single game with a big fat head. Like it’s like, if you want to do that, that’s great. But yeah, choose one, especially if it’s a long season with a lot of games, like choose one or two, one a week, one every three weeks. ⁓

Karlie (11:18)
Right.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (11:33)
You know, you can also just keep a running calendar. If you’re a student minister, enable your volunteers to just also choose just one. And then with enough people, you’ll cover, you know, hopefully the whole youth group. And, you know, some things are, you know, more important than others. One regular season game versus, you know, a playoff game or a one act play that only happens once a year. You know, it’s okay to prioritize some of those, you know, if you know.

Karlie (11:54)
Mm.

Caleb Hatchett (12:02)
Your students or student is in a play and you can mark that off months in advance to make sure that you’re there because it only happens once You know some things will take priority, but don’t don’t feel the need to show up to everything but continue to meet them where they’re at and even in the midst of the busyness I think this can also look like You know meeting them where they’re at and their schedule and in their wants and interests of if they are busy

Karlie (12:12)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Caleb Hatchett (12:28)
you know, see if they, the student can carve out one afternoon for coffee, you know, if they like coffee or if they like whatever, but just in the midst of the busyness, see, you know, meet them where they’re at in their interests and in their schedule to see if you can have time to check in person to person.

Karlie (12:45)
When I think in that of what you’re saying, like if you can be consistent where and when, especially if nothing else is, our dad is really good at this. Was really good at it when we were in high school and I’m the only one still living here. So I get the benefit of still getting weekly lunches with my dad of every Thursday I just know unless every now and then something comes up and we’re understanding of that and we can move it around, but

Caleb Hatchett (12:49)
Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Karlie (13:10)
Thursdays, I eat lunch with my dad. And when I was in high school, I think it was Tuesdays. I think you did breakfast.

Caleb Hatchett (13:15)
It was.

We, we that, yeah, we would go breakfast every game day. you know, every Friday we would go get Chick-fil-A and then even like when I was in high school and you know, there was a time where we overlapped, you were back from college. was still in high school every Tuesday. Me, you and dad would go grab lunch. And so, and yeah, he was, he and mom were at every game at every thing that we did. And it was, you know, looking back.

Karlie (13:34)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (13:45)
I don’t think I recognized it, how important and maybe rare that was as a teenager, but it still meant a lot that they were at everything. think whether I knew it or not, it communicates this person cares. ⁓ and for a student who especially might not have that from their home life or from their parents or other adults in their life, if you can be consistent,

Karlie (13:50)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (14:10)
Again, maybe not every game, be consistent enough to show interest and to show up. It means so, so much.

Karlie (14:17)
Right, and so if you’re not a parent, that could look like sending a good luck text before big events of, I know you’ve got this going on today, good luck. Or let me know how it goes after, or even taking the time anymore, especially with sporting events, the school on social media somewhere will post the outcome of that game. So if you can’t go to the game, even without asking, hey, how’d it go? Hey, I saw y’all won a big one tonight, congrats.

Caleb Hatchett (14:21)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I love that.

Karlie (14:44)
showing

that you took the step to go looking for how they did. And you might not know how they did individually, or sometimes you did. Maybe if they’re the star of the football team, hey, I saw you got three touchdowns tonight. That’s incredible. Showing them that you care in that way. It could also be once a week or once a month at the beginning of every month, hey, what’s coming up for you this month? How can I be praying for you? What are some things that are stressful? Is there anything I can…

Caleb Hatchett (14:48)
Yeah.

Right.

Karlie (15:12)
help you with this month where you just know I’m going to do this every Sunday or every the first week of every month I’m going to kind of see how they’re doing and they know it’s coming and it’s just a consistent this what we do.

Caleb Hatchett (15:18)
Yeah

And

like we said off the top, they, teens might not necessarily communicate that they like structure. They function well under it. And like, I’ve been surprised. I get lunch with the student every month. And if sometimes I’ll forget, he’ll remind me because it’s part of the routine. It’s part of the consistency and predictability of us getting lunch and you know, like make it fun. And I think it even goes back to me the more they’re at every month, me and the student try to go somewhere new to eat.

Karlie (15:31)
Mm-hmm.

Hmm. Right.

Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (15:54)
And we, you know, we try some things and, know, it’s, fun. It’s consistent, but I think you’ll be surprised too. Once you establish this consistency and predictability, how much they depend on it and want it as well.

Karlie (16:06)
That’s good. So to kind of wrap up this episode, we do kind of want to give some advice if they seem distant or you don’t feel as connected. So you’re trying these things and you’re just going, man, we just are in a season where I cannot connect with this student. I’m not feeling as connected to my kid. First of all, don’t take it personally. I think automatically teens are going to go through phases where they…

Caleb Hatchett (16:14)
Yeah.

Karlie (16:28)
have a lot of time or where they don’t, it’s often not about you. It’s about what they feel like they can handle in that moment. So don’t take it personally and get your feelings wrapped up or even like given to maybe some of the drama that their friends do, which is, are you mad at me? Hey, what’s going on? Like you don’t have to do that and just maybe remind yourself, hey, they must have a lot going on right now and I’m going to give them extra grace in a time where maybe they’re not getting that.

Caleb Hatchett (16:45)
Yeah, right.

Yeah. Yeah.

Karlie (16:57)
I also think it’s so important to show up anyways. If they don’t always respond, you can still offer again. If you are consistently reaching out, if you’re consistently showing up at their games or like we’ve said, if you have a student that’s not responding to a lot, show up at their next game and that way they see you in person. And once again, I think sometimes that triggers in their brain, hey, you care enough that even in the hard times, even when I’m not giving you anything back that you’re showing up for me.

Caleb Hatchett (16:59)
Yes.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah. And I, know, in those moments you’re showing up, yeah, you sometimes just you showing up will be all the communication that needs to happen. doesn’t need to be adding on a layer of guilt of, man, wanted to make sure you were alive. know, like it’s just, Hey, you did great, man. I’ve missed seeing you talking to you. It was glad to get to see you, you know, just can communicate so, so differently than, throwing on the guilt on them.

Karlie (17:35)
Mm-hmm.

Right.

Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (17:54)
when they’re already in the middle of a busy season. But yeah, keep showing up and let them take the lead instead of asking questions, try statements like, hey man, I’m here if you ever need to talk. And again, I think you’ll be surprised if you establish that consistency and relationship, how much they rely on you. No pressure, just wanted to check in how you’re doing.

Karlie (18:12)
Mm-hmm.

Caleb Hatchett (18:19)
balancing this need of a lot of times students have a lot going on and they’re not organized enough to be like, it needs to text Caleb today, right? Like check in. Yes, but still let them take the lead on, on what to do on how they’re doing everything like that.

Karlie (18:36)
Right. All good stuff. We just really want to encourage you as we head into a busy season, a different season, a disrupted season, that you will find ways to connect with teens, that you will find ways to let them know that they’re seen and they’re loved. And even if they aren’t responsive or even if they aren’t able to juggle all the things,

maybe in a way that they would even like to that you’re gonna continue to show up and care for them. And that is what really matters. So as always, this has been a great season of the Teen Life Podcast. We’re loving answering questions and talking through topics that are hopefully gonna help you connect to the teens in your life. So if you have questions that you want us to cover, make sure that you reach out on social media or email podcast at teenlife.ngo.

Caleb Hatchett (19:02)
Yeah. Yeah.

Karlie (19:26)
You can always subscribe on YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts so you don’t miss future episodes. And we’ll see you later.

Karlie Duke
Karlie Duke

Communications Director

Caleb Hatchett
Caleb Hatchett

Podcast Host

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  3. What practical techniques can adults use to make teens feel heard and understood?
What We Cover

07:30  Non-verbal cues, such as eye contact and body language, to gauge the level of trust and connection with a teenager.
09:53  Developing active listening skills, including using minimal encouragers, paraphrasing, and reflection.
17:34  Asking open-ended questions that allow teenagers to share their experiences, rather than narrow questions.

How do you build trust quickly?

Building trust with teens is essential for fostering open and meaningful conversations. Without trust, teens are less likely to share their thoughts and feelings.

To establish trust quickly:

Give them a sense of safety.

Trust isn’t just about words—it’s about how they feel around you. Creating a non-judgmental, accepting space helps them feel secure.

Listen with empathy and understanding.

Teens need to feel heard, not just listened to. Show them you genuinely care about their perspective by validating their feelings.

Show up fully and be present.

Put away distractions, make eye contact, and engage in the moment. Being physically present isn’t enough; your emotional presence matters just as much.

Remain shock-proof.

If a teen shares something surprising or difficult, react with composure. Showing calmness encourages them to keep opening up, knowing they won’t be met with judgment or alarm.

What are the most effective ways to create a safe space where teens feel comfortable opening up?

Teens need a supportive environment to express themselves freely.

Some ways to create that space include:

Consistency matters.

Showing up consistently builds trust over time. Teens need to know you’ll be there no matter what.

Match tone and body language.

Mirroring their energy and demeanor can help them feel at ease.

Demonstrate unconditional support.

Make it clear that their worth isn’t conditional on their behavior or what they share.

Respect confidentiality.

Unless safety is a concern, what they share should stay between you and them. This reinforces trust and reassures them that they can speak freely.

How do I keep teens talking?

Active listening is a critical skill for building trust.

Try these techniques:

Minimal encouragers.

Use non-verbal cues like nodding or verbal affirmations like “I see” or “Go on” to encourage them to continue.

Paraphrasing and summarizing.

Restate what they’ve said in your own words to show you’re engaged and understanding.

Reflection.

Repeat their last few words to prompt them to elaborate. This can be as simple as, “So you felt frustrated?”

What if I misunderstand?

We all get it wrong sometimes. Especially when every generation is using a different vocabulary!

When that happens:

Admit when you’re wrong.

Teens respect honesty and humility.

Ask them to tell you again.

A simple “Tell me again, I want to make sure I understand” shows you’re invested in truly getting it.

Stay curious.

Curiosity fosters connection. As Brenda McAdoo puts it, “Curiosity is the superpower of successful people.”

How can adults keep showing up so teens know they can trust us?

Building trust is an ongoing process that requires consistency and intentionality.

Some ways to show up for teens include:

Ask questions that focus on them.

Show genuine interest in their lives by asking thoughtful questions.

Create opportunities for hard conversations.

Don’t shy away from deep topics, but approach them with care and patience.

Find a balance between going deeper and staying non-confrontational.

Approach sensitive topics in a way that feels safe rather than interrogative.

Avoid ‘Why?’ questions.

Why questions can feel accusatory. Instead, use ‘How?’ and ‘What?’ questions, which encourage thoughtful responses.

Ask open-ended questions.

Instead of “What did you and your friends do today?” try “What’s the best thing that happened to you today?” This invites more meaningful discussion.

How do I know when I have enough emotional capital to ask deeper questions?

Building trust takes time, but you’ll notice key signs when a teen feels comfortable with you:

  • They make eye contact and react positively when you greet them.
  • They turn toward you when you enter a room.
  • Fun fact: If a person you have a connection with yawns, you are more likely to yawn with them! This subtle sign of connection shows that a level of trust has been established.

Some Last Thoughts

Building trust with teens takes patience, presence, and genuine curiosity. By listening well, being consistent, and showing up in a way that makes them feel valued, you create the foundation for meaningful conversations and lasting connections.

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0:00
Music. Welcome to the Teen Life Podcast, where we explore your questions to help you make meaningful connections with teenagers, because no teen deserves to feel alone. Now today we have an extra special episode, because we’re kind of, we’re still asking questions, we’re answering questions, but we have a special guest, which is Brenda McAdoo, and I’m also joined by Nino Elliot today, who’s stepping in for Tobin after he had his baby. So we’ve got a full episode that you are going to be blessed by the wisdom that is coming from Brenda especially. But Brenda, let’s kick it off. Why don’t you give us just a little introduction into who you are before we get into your stuff today.

0:50
Great. Thanks so much for having me. I’m Brenda McAdoo, and I’m currently the chairman of the teen life board, and love the work that we do with teens. My background is that I spent 24 years as an FBI special agent. 22 of those were as a hostage negotiator, dealing with people in really dark places and in hard times. So I became interested in why people do the things that they do, and since then, I’ve retired, and I now work for Abilene Christian University as a professor in conflict resolution, yeah?

1:22
So I mean, the stories, I’m sure that Brenda can tell us, yeah, are going to be something that we’ve been wanting to get you on the podcast for a long time, Brenda, so I’m glad that

1:32
Yeah, absolutely.

1:33
it happened. It finally happened. So let’s start off with the first question. And we’re actually going to have three episodes with you, so there’s going to be more coming. Because I, as we were looking through questions, I was like, I can’t get it all into one episode. But today, let’s kick it off with, why is trust the foundation of any meaningful conversation? And then how do you build it quickly? Like for our listeners, we’re like, I’ve got teenagers in my life, and I need to build this trust. How can they do that?

2:01
Yeah, trust is really important for connection, and trust is not an easy thing to build unless you have a relationship. And so we talk a lot about, how do you build it quickly with strangers, which is what I had to do as a hostage negotiator, and to build it quickly because there was something going on that needed to happen, but really as a parent or as an important, you know, adult in a teenager’s life, you can build rapport. And sometimes it does take time, but there are some things that you can do to speed it up, especially if you have a short amount of time. You need to get to know them really well and build that trust really it’s about giving them a sense of safety, not so much about what you do. It’s about what they feel. And so as we figure out how to have a shared space and building common ground, it’s not always about, Oh, do you like the Mavericks, or are you more of a you know, stars fan because you like hockey? It really is about, do you trust in me? Do you feel safe saying things to me, one that I’ll keep I’ll keep that confidence. If I’ve told you that I’ll keep your confidence, but that that connection is strong enough that that I feel safe talking about hard things. And so there are a couple things that you can do to build it quickly. The two things I would say to build trust quickly are: listen with empathy, and those aren’t always easy for people, because personality wise, a lot of us are not wired for empathy innately. Now there’s some people who are, and I will say those of you out there who have empathy for others, you feel with others. It is a gift to the world. I do not have innate empathy. I had to learn how to develop it and convey it to people. But also for those of you that have it, you need to guard your hearts, because it can also be a curse to you, right? Because you feel with others. And so that can be hard, but with teenagers to be able to listen to them without judgment

4:59
With understanding I love that. I think I’ve seen that in our groups- I had a group the other day, and one of the first questions they asked was not What do I like or about my family- it was, are you coming every week? Yeah, and the just that ability to feel safe. And I was like, okay, that matters more than even what we’re doing or that I brought snacks, but are you going to come back?

5:21
Are you someone that is safe and that, yeah, not just safe, but consistent, right? Like, because, frankly, teenagers are at a point in their lives where they don’t have a lot of bandwidth for people who aren’t going to stay or who don’t show up fully and be present, right? And so those things are really important, too. I liked your non-judgmental aspect, because, I think a lot of times, and we’ve talked about this in our groups, for our groups, as facilitators, especially, but is the ability to have a non-shocked face, right, and so if you want to gain trust, they’re going to potentially say things that are going to they’re going to gage how do you respond. And so to, you know, to be able to pause, listen and kind of almost show no emotion, or appropriate emotion, maybe. But I think that’s a big one as well. That aligns with that, yeah, and I would say, as parents and as important adults in kids’ lives, that we have to be able to be shock-proof, is what I call it, but you don’t have to be unemotional bullet-proof, right?

7:16
that we can take it in, but we don’t have to react right away. Now, you’ve talked a lot about creating that safe space and how important that is. So what are some like, Effective, Practical Ways that we can create a safe space for teenagers, where they can open up outside of I know you mentioned listening, but what are some other things to make the space?

7:34
Yeah, so non-verbals are huge for kids. They will watch that more than they will your words. So that is a little bit about how you hold your body. Like, we’re not always aware that we’re tense. Sometimes I realize I’m sitting right, I’m sitting somewhere, and because I’m, like, leaning in and I’m kind of still, and my, you know, holding my neck a certain way, I can tell, like, Oh, I’m tense. Well, they can feel that more than see it. They sense it. And so I think our non-verbals have to match our words, and then our tone has to match our words. So I give people the explanation, you know that can maybe the example where if you say I’m fine, you can say it different ways.

8:19
I’m fine is very different than I’m fine, right? And so tone really matters. And so if we can match our tone and our body language with our words, that’s what creates safety, because consistency, not only in the you showing up, right, but in how you behave with them. In the hard times, you can behave however you want when things are easy and they’re happy and nothing’s going wrong, but when things are going wrong, can you behave in a way that shows them? I’ll show up, I’m present, but I love you unconditionally. And the unconditional piece they need to know that no matter what they say or do that you will still treat them the same. Now that doesn’t mean they don’t get disciplined. That doesn’t mean there aren’t consequences. There’s natural consequences, but lots of things teenagers do. But can there not be consequences to how how I treat you and how you feel in my presence? Right? So that we don’t get to where we’re dismissive, or we show the disgust, or all the things right, that that put up a wall between one

9:29
of the things that we talk about, and you probably know better even than us, to teach us, but in our training is even non verbal cues to show I’m listening like the things that I do. I can do certain things in a group. I can make eye contact, I can lean forward, I can nod my head, like, are there other things like that that you’re talking about, non verbals that can help us show am hearing you and I understand you even

9:53
Yeah, so the FBI and every other police agency that has hostage negotiators teaches something called Active list. Listening, but so does sales, so does marketing, right? So do all the persuasive lawyers. I mean, like anybody who has to persuade someone, kind of studies this, but that’s where it came from. And so those active listening skills include that, and so they are minimal encouragers. It’s the uh huh, wow, okay. It’s the nodding, the smiling a little bit when someone’s talking, anything that minimally encourages them to keep talking. So actively listening. The reason we say active is that it can. It encourages them to continue their story their way. Right? If you ask them to bombard them with questions, it’ll sound like an interrogation. It’ll sound like you’re drilling down too far to get in their business, and teenagers don’t like that. And so how can we actively listen? So both if you do the leaning in, smiling, nodding, and then add some of those verbal things as well, in addition to the minimal encourager, you can do a couple other things. One of them is to paraphrase. You’ve got a kid who’s been talking to you about something for a bit, and then when they stop or take a breath, you can either ask a question, which we’ll get to asking questions, but you can also paraphrase, or summarize what they’ve said. It tells them, not only I heard you, but I can put it in my own words, which conveys understanding. So there are some things as you’re having that conversation, even if they’re just small, things you can say, like, let me see if I got that right when you went to this class, this is what happened. And I use my own words to show them that I took it in, but I also really understood it. Another thing that you can do is what we call reflection. And with reflection, you’re just going to take the last few words of what they said and say it back to them. It’s like a mirror. You do this really well. People won’t even know that you spoke. So here’s what it sounds like. It’s not magic, it’s just, it’s communication skills. Yes, I know. So as somebody’s talking, they’re telling you, like, Hey, I had some trouble setting up my equipment, and nothing would go right. And, you know, my friend was over here, like, bugging me, and, you know, just really pushing me, pushing you. Yeah, they were pushing me. And I felt kind of stressed. All I’m taking is like, two words at the end, one or two words at the end of what they’ve said, and I’m sliding it in with my own inflection. That’s like

12:25
And because of that, they continue the story past what they might normally do fascinating, and so they don’t even recognize that you’re saying it, but you’re encouraging them to continue talking to you. This is really good for teenagers, because sometimes they come home from school. I have a teenager. Our last child is in high school right now, and I will ask him how his day went. And he’s like, Fine, or nothing happened, or is it the same? He just says same. It’s like one word, right? So then I’m like, Okay, what question do I ask now? Well, I usually ask if anything funny happened. Once he starts to tell the story. Now I’m going to use minimal encouragers to show him I’m there and listening and present. And I wasn’t just asking because I ask every day when you come in, how you are, but I’m actually interested. And so then I’ll repeat something back, or I’ll use a reflection which gets him to continue that story, I’m going to learn way more than I would have about him and his friends in his day, and then how he’s doing. And those are those can be really, that, really powerful in that beginning of conversation, right?

13:33
So even just finding, Hey, what is the thing that’s going to get them talking so that I have something to work with, right? Right? Okay, I do have a question, because there have been times where I have paraphrased and they’re like, No, absolutely not. You’re so off. So how, in that moment as an adult, can we respond in a way that’s like, Okay, I was wrong. Yeah, exactly that way. Like, really, I Okay. Then tell me again, I got that wrong. Um, with honesty. I think when, when you say honestly, I got it wrong. I think that gives the kid like you’re not, no, no, I said it this way or whatever, and dismissing what they just spoke right?

14:12
So I love that. Just own up to it and then, okay, tell me again. I wouldn’t I really want to get it right. Well, this is especially important now when you’ve especially if you’ve got teenagers, and they are middle school, maybe especially where the language is already changing again. So if you had a teacher that just graduated, you knew all the words in the vernacular they were using. I don’t know it again. So now I’m like, they come home and be like, Man, he was selling. Selling is a good thing, right? No, it’s not. Actually. It means that you’re not doing well. And so being able to ask, even like, if he says, like a whole sentence, and I don’t know what any of that meant, right? I need to ask be curious. Curiosity is actually the superpower of successful people. I love that.

15:00
Yeah, I know. I also feel like teenagers can see through if you’re trying, like, if I’m trying to talk like a teenager, they’re gonna look at me and be like, Absolutely not. That is not helpful. Or if I’m just like, oh yeah, just going along with it. And they’re, they’re looking at me, going, she has no idea what we’re talking about. And they can see through that very, very quickly. And make sure you don’t ask for the definition in a judgmental way, like I hear parents that are like, don’t say those words. That’s silly, don’t they? They’re going to use the vernacular that they use. We use the vernacular that we had, right, right? And sounds silly to them now, from the, you know, from the 70s and 80s. So red time exactly, gag me with a spoon, all the things, but, but to be curious and to be truly want to know the things that they’re saying and experiencing, I think, makes a difference. That goes back to building the rapport and the connection and Brenda along that same question with this trust building. You mentioned it earlier, Karlie, and we do in our groups, we have this

16:02
ability. And you’ve also said it, keep showing up. Keep showing up. And so if it’s not a group setting, what are ways you think are possible for us to be able to keep showing up in a teenager’s life, to know that I want to have a relationship with you. I want you to trust I want to show you. I want to be an important person in your life.

16:27
I think asking questions is a lot of that in that space, because you don’t have a whole lot of time with them in group. And frankly, we don’t have a lot of time with our teenagers these days. They’re running off to sports, they’re going after, they’re going with friends and and so can we take advantage of the space we do have with them? And I think asking questions that make it about them, not asking questions about what they’re going to be when they grow up, they don’t know. And it’s going to change. There are very few kids who go all the way through and they are still doing what they said they were going to be doing when they were, you know, 15. But I think asking questions about them and not being afraid to ask hard questions, I think that kids, they don’t expect it right, because they don’t know that they’re going to like it. But I think some of those hard questions about, well, what did that? What did that do to you? Or, you know, Man, that sounds like that was something really hard. Do you want to talk about it? I mean, even just the opening up of space, even if they don’t take you up on it. So I think asking questions is is really important in the keys to ask the right question, right so then that begs the question, what are the right questions? So the right questions are ones that aren’t confrontational, but are deeper than surface. So fine line, right? How do we balance being deeper than surface, but not not being confrontational? So good things to stay away for a why? Because why is one of those questions that maybe implies that they’ve done something wrong. So that’ll make them defensive, right? But if you can ask, how, what? And leave it really open. So I think sometimes as parents, we make the mistake of asking questions about a certain thing instead of a topic. So what did you and your friends do, as opposed to what was the best thing that happened to you today? Or are you enjoying that set of friends? Do you feel like that’s a place that you guys are going to stay friends for a long time, right? Which leaves it really open, then they can tell you what they did today or what they talked about,

18:44
right? We’re asking too narrow of a question. Yes, yes.

18:47
So I would say open-ended questions, which is another one of the active listening techniques, but open-ended questions that really allow them to choose where to go with the conversation, and then we flow with that.

18:59
So Josh has- he’s a basketball coach, and so I’m around these boys, but not a ton. And sometimes I find myself asking, like, how do I know when I have enough relational capital to ask a question that might be deeper, are they going to look at me and be like, You don’t know me well enough to ask about that? Like, what do you what are you doing? So I don’t know if there’s a like, clear answer to that, but how do you know? Like, okay, I feel like there’s enough relationship here that we can go deeper. Yeah, so lots of times the kids, I was a basketball coach too, for a while, my kids were young, and I then you’ve got a bunch of kids, right? You don’t even know them very well, but here’s, here’s one of the ways that you can tell kids, teenagers, whether you have relational equity, is that when you say hello to them, they actually look you in the eye and they follow up with something.

19:47
and and I think that it makes it small, right? So if you say, Hey, how are you? And they’re like, fine, and mumble and look down, right? And go on, you don’t have relational equity. But if they will look you in the eye and. And there’s some sort of reaction. It doesn’t have to be a smile, right? Because not all kids are wired to be friendly, right? But it has to be some sort of reaction to you, non verbally, and then it’s a look you in the eye and give you the answer. And then you can tell that you’ve actually created connection. So we’re wired for connection, so Neuroscience tells us that it’s one of the reasons we yawn when other people do, right? So we are wired for connection with each other, and in some form, I don’t know all the science, but our brains talks to each other. That’s why, when people yawn on the TV, you don’t yawn.

20:35
But when people who are near you trying not to yawn, over there

20:38
that have you have a connection with if they yawn. You do. So when you’re around the, you know, the dinner table, or at Thanksgiving or whatever, and somebody yawns, you can see who likes that person, right? Because you only yawn with people you have a connection with. It is not a universal thing.

20:56
Oh, I have to test that. Wow. Okay, yeah,

21:35
That’s good and so helpful. Well, thank you, Brenda.

21:37
I am, I mean, I could keep going and going, and that’s why we’re gonna have more episodes.

21:42
Yeah, that’s good, because we want to keep picking your brain. But thank you so much for the wisdom that you shared. And if you’re listening to this podcast, as always, subscribe. You can also email podcast@teenlife.ngo if you have any questions that you want us to cover or topics that you want us to talk about, and we’ll see you next week.

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Connecting with students can make all the difference.

In the fast-paced world of education, it’s essential to recognize the impact of connecting with students on their academic performance and overall well-being. Fostering strong connections with students can lead to better attendance, better motivation, and more positive outcomes in the classroom.

The Teacher-Student Relationship: Connecting with Students

One of the cornerstones of academic success is the teacher-student relationship. Cultivating a connection with students can make all the difference in their educational journey. As we delve into the importance of connecting with students, it’s crucial to understand that these connections go beyond the curriculum. They are built on trust, respect, and genuine care for the students’ growth and development.

Studies consistently show that students who feel a strong connection with their teachers tend to excel in their studies. The positive rapport created enhances their engagement in the learning process. They’re not only more likely to attend classes regularly but also actively participate and invest more effort into their assignments.

Behavioral Benefits of Connecting with Students

Building meaningful connections with students also has a profound impact on their behavior. When educators prioritize connecting with students, it has the power to reduce behavioral problems. It’s almost like having a calming effect on students, making them more receptive to classroom expectations and guidelines.

Positive interactions with teachers stimulate the release of dopamine in students’ brains, known as the “feel-good” neurotransmitter. This not only elevates their mood but also kick-starts a cycle of increased motivation. The more students feel valued and acknowledged, the more motivated they become, leading to improved behavior and overall performance.

Creating a Safe Environment

The classroom environment plays a pivotal role when building connections. When teenagers feel psychologically safe, they are more likely to engage in various classroom activities. This safety net encourages them to participate in class discussions, ask questions, tackle challenging assignments, and collaborate with their peers.

Imagine a classroom where students feel free to express themselves without fear of ridicule or judgment. In that space, connection becomes the foundation for a collaborative learning journey. Students are more willing to take risks and explore new ideas. They are more likely to thrive!

So how can teachers and school staff connect to students?

  • Show up to what matters to them- sporting events, concerts, plays, award ceremonies.
  • Do a check-in. Fist-to-five works great and then you know who to check on after class.
  • Follow up on stuff outside of class. Ask how the game went or how their job is going. Don’t only talk to them about school!
  • Model social skills like turn-taking, cooperation, and empathy on a daily basis. You can take it a step further and explain the behaviors you’re modeling. The next time you’re feeling frustrated, tell your students how you’re feeling. Talk about how you deal with frustration, such as taking a few deep breaths.
  • Look for ways to praise and compliment. Praise the effort rather than the outcome!
  • Create an environment where laughter is welcome! Encourage students to ask questions, make mistakes, and engage.
Fist-to-Five Check-In

Have students make a fist. On this scale, “fist” means bad. zero. low. the worst. Then, have students hold up 5 fingers. “Five” means the best. never better. awesome! Now, ask a question and have them hold up a number between “fist” and “five” to represent how they are feeling.

Download the pdf for questions to ask and easy-to-share  instructions.

Creating a Safe Environment

Prioritizing connection is a transformational approach to education. The positive impact extends beyond the classroom, setting students up for success in and outside of the classroom.

For many students, the most positive interactions they have in a day are with school staff. We appreciate the hard work that teachers, counselors, administrators and other do!

By celebrating student successes, offering support during challenges, and creating an environment where teens feel valued and heard, we empower our students to reach their full potential and shape a brighter future.

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Is your teen reading spicy books?

Spicy books, known for their edgy and romantic themes, have been captivating the hearts and minds of teens all over. In this episode, we’ll explore what makes spicy novels so appealing to teenagers, the impact they can have on young readers, and how parents and educators can navigate this literary landscape.

Spicy book terms to know

  • Spicy, Smutty, Steamy
    All implies that there is sexual content in a book.
  • ?️
    Spicy or shows a spice rating out of 5 peppers
  • Sweet Romance
    Focus is mostly on emotional intimacy. There may be sexual tension, but does not contain sex scenes. Could still contain some mild language.
  • Clean Romance
    Generally means no on-page sex, violence, or cursing.
  • Closed-Door
    When the reader knows that a couple had sex in the book, but it “fades to black” and has no on-page sex scenes.

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